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Climatic Controls Operation (GROUP 87, NO. 09-08)

Publication date: 2009-10-15
Reference number: GROUP 87, NO. 09-08
Supersedes refnos: 2018511, GROUP 87, NO. 08-05

CLIMATIC CONTROLS OPERATION

CLIMATIC CONTROLS OPERATION

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN

Reference Number(s): GROUP 87, NO. 09-08 (2018511), Date of Issue:  October 15, 2009
VOLKSWAGEN: 2005-2009 (A5) Jetta; 2006-2009 Rabbit, GTI, R32, Passat, Passat Wagon; 2009 Tiguan
GROUP: 87 - Air Conditioner
Superceded Bulletin(s): GROUP 87, NO. 08-05, Date of Issue:  August 11, 2008

SERVICE INFORMATION

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

Model(s) Year Eng. Code Trans. Code VIN Range From VIN Range To
(A5) Jetta 2005-2009 All All All All
Rabbit, GTI, R32 2006-2009 All All All All
Passat, Passat Wagon 2006-2009 All All All All
Tiguan 2009 All All All All

CONDITION

NOTE: Supersedes T.B. Group 87 number 08-05 dated Aug. 11, 2008 to update warranty detail.

87 09 08  Oct. 15, 2009 2018511  Supersedes T.B. Group 87 number 08-05 dated Aug. 11, 2008 to update warranty detail.

Climatic Controls Operation 

Customer perceives selected temperature is not blowing the same temperature as selected.

TECHNICAL BACKGROUND

Climatic controls the air temperature so that selected temperatures are reached as soon as possible, and then remain constant.

Temperature requests are relayed to the control module by a potentiometer in the rotary switch.

The information in this Technical Bulletin is to verify the controls are operating to specifications.

PRODUCTION SOLUTION

Not applicable.

SERVICE

Tip:  Engine must be running with minimum coolant operating temperature of 87° Celsius (190° F). (see measuring value block 4/4).

Tip:  Do not use instrument cluster display to verify ambient or coolant temperature. (use measuring value blocks 4 group 4, and confirm ambient temperature with an external source i.e. thermometer, thermocouple).

Tip:  Allow approximately 2 minutes for temperature to reach and maintain the stated temperature as shown on table below.

Temperature measurements on the table below are for reference only, Actual values may vary.

  1. Validate the temperature at the minimum temperature (position 1).
  2. Validate the temperature at the mid temperature (position 5).
  3. Validate the temperature at the maximum temperature (position 9).
  4. Validate the temperature variation at a position between (position 1) and (position 5)
  5. Validate the temperature variation at a position between (position 5) and (position 9).
    Fig 1: Temperature Selector Rotary Switch
    G06405524
TEMPERATURE MEASUREMENTS

Position of Temperature Knob °F 
Ambient Temperature 
59°F  45 71 83 96 115 125 150 155 156
68°F  46 54 65 76 89 111 127 149 152
77°F  46 46 50 56 68 80 93 116 151
86°F  46 46 46 46 55 66 78 94 152
95°F  45 45 45 45 50 50 64 74 150
Position of Temperature Knob °C 
Ambient Temperature 
15°C  7 22 28 36 46 52 66 68 69
20°C  8 12 18 25 32 44 53 65 67
25°C  8 8 10 13 20 27 34 47 66
30°C  8 8 8 8 13 19 26 34 67
35°C  7 7 7 7 10 10 18 23 66

If temperature measurements are within a negligible range of table readings, system is operating to specifications and no further diagnosis is necessary.

Advise customer the system is operating as designed, and refer customer to owner's manual for description of system operation.

If the temperature did not adjust within minimum and maximum positions:

WARRANTY

WARRANTY INFORMATION

To determine if this procedure is covered under Warranty, always refer to the Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual (1)
Model(s) Year(s) Eng. Code(s) Trans. Code(s) VIN Range From VIN Range To
(A5) Jetta 2005-2009 All All All All
Rabbit, GTI, R32 2006-2009 All All All All
Passat, Passat Wagon 2006-2009 All All All All
Tiguan 2009 All All All All
Claim Type: Use applicable Claim Type (1)
SAGA Coding 
Service Number: Damage Code HST Damage Location (Depends on Service No.) Parts Manufacturer (removed part)
8704 0040 - Use applicable when indicated in ElsaWeb (L/R) B H B (2)
Labor Operation (3) : 87040399 = 60 TU
Diagnostic Time (4)
GFF Time expenditure 01500000 = 00 TU max. NO
Road Test 01210002 & 01210004 NO
Technical Diagnosis 0132xxxx = 00 TU max. NO
Claim Comment: Input "As per Technical Bulletin 2018511" in comment section of Warranty Claim.
(1) Vehicle may be outside any Warranty in which case this Technical Bulletin is informational only
(2) Code per warranty vendor code policy.
(3) Labor Time Units (TUs) are subject to change with Elsa updates.
(4) Documentation required per Warranty Policy & Procedures Manual.

REQUIRED PARTS AND TOOLS

No Special Parts Required.

TOOL INFORMATION

Tool Description Tool No:
VAS Diagnostic Tool VAS 5051B, 5052/A
(Base CD V15.00 and Brand CD V15.94 or higher)

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

All part and service references provided in this Technical Bulletin are subject to change and/or removal. Always check with your Parts Dept. and Repair Manuals for the latest information  .